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Wolf




Joined: May 26, 2003

Posts: 154

Location: Florida

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 12:24 pm   Post subject: Wheel

I'm trying to get the hub and tire off my Yuma in order to repack the wheel bearings (and repaint the hubs). It's jacked up, the bolts are all out, but I'll be darned if I can get the tire and hub off. After a lot of struggling, I've got it to move out about 1/2". Any ideas on what might be holding it on? Glad I didn't try this on the road after getting a flat... I'd still be there. _________________ al r. '72 Yuma

timsch

Apache Master




Joined: Apr 20, 2003

Posts: 696

Location: Auburn Hills, MI

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 12:55 pm   Post subject:

Just had the same problem on a 76 Ramada. There was grease and dirt built up on the cap part of the hub and a bit of rust added to the back of the wheel all added to holding it on. I beat it off with a brass mallet from the back and rotating it, camper jacked up of course.

araden

Wolf




Joined: May 26, 2003

Posts: 154

Location: Florida

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 1:35 pm   Post subject:

Thanks, Tim. I figured it was going to just take a bit more force, but wanted to make sure. What's funny is that it seems to be loose all the way around; must be the hub. _________________ al r. '72 Yuma

jtslj

Apache Master




Joined: Apr 20, 2003

Posts: 722

Location: Salt Lake City Utah

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 3:01 pm   Post subject:

I took the tires off my mesa it took some working.. the opening for the hub in the rim was almost not big enough.. it took some time but I got it.. lots of wilggling / rocking to get it off. _________________ Me -71 (Jeff) Wife ?? (Shauna) Thomas 97 Nicholas 01 '79 Ramada '95 GMC Z71 in Utah

araden

Wolf




Joined: May 26, 2003

Posts: 154

Location: Florida

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 3:51 pm   Post subject:

That's what I think my problem is. There's no binding from the back; the rim just won't clear the hub. I've used lots of oil and have sore arms, but still no go... I'm sure I'll get there. When I get it off, I'll probably grind the opening in the rim a bit before painting it. _________________ al r. '72 Yuma

kevin

Can't Back-up Straight




Joined: Aug 07, 2003

Posts: 5

Location: Indianapolis IN

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 4:53 pm   Post subject:

Not being familar with the axle setup yet, I gotta ask - Could the brake have worn into the hub? I had this problem on a car a few years ago. Worn so deep and the adjuster was frozen that I had to cut off the side of the drum to get it off. About 4 hours worth of work with a sawsall. If it is just stubborn invest in a "Dead Blow" hammer, they are about $25, availible at Sears and just about any other place that sell tools. It looks like an oversized rubber mallet but is filled with shot. No matter how I hit another drum to get it off it would not move. One shot with the "Dead Blow" and I was wondering why I had not gotten one before! For those that work on old cars etc. it is well worth the investment. _________________ Kevin '55 Carla '70 William '99 Andrew 'Jan-04

araden

Wolf




Joined: May 26, 2003

Posts: 154

Location: Florida

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 7:47 pm   Post subject:

Thanks for the idea, but the Yuma doesn't have brakes... _________________ al r. '72 Yuma

tnaptguy

Moose




Joined: Sep 22, 2003

Posts: 279

Location: Memphis, TN

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 8:50 pm   Post subject:


_________________

tnaptguy--Bret '67

Jen '68

BretII '95

Emily '99

Rachael '01

Sophia '03

Tinkerbell '97

DodgeRam TurboDeisel'99

Ramada '79


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FiremanPete

Deer




Joined: May 27, 2003

Posts: 202

Location: Connecticut

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 10:21 pm   Post subject:

Having lifted cars off (very very very thin) dead people numerous times, I have to recommend strongly against this technique, Bret. It might work for that mechanic, but all it would take is rocking the camper (or vehicle) off the jack stand and having one side drop down. The worst part of dying by being crushed by your vehicle is that it's usually not quick. The vehicle comes off the jack and lands on you...the weight of the mass on your chest asphyxiates you as you can't take a breath. So you're still alive, but can't take a breath to scream for help. Never get under a car and kick at the wheel. If you do, sign your will (over to me please) first. _________________ Pete '67 Katie '69 Samantha '95 Shaun '96 Shannon '98 Ramada '74

jtslj

Apache Master




Joined: Apr 20, 2003

Posts: 722

Location: Salt Lake City Utah

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 10:25 pm   Post subject:

when I get new tires on my truck.. they were working on a trailer with a stubborn wheel.. they used heat they got out the torch and got it hot and it came off.. _________________ Me -71 (Jeff) Wife ?? (Shauna) Thomas 97 Nicholas 01 '79 Ramada '95 GMC Z71 in Utah

tnaptguy

Moose




Joined: Sep 22, 2003

Posts: 279

Location: Memphis, TN

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 10:32 pm   Post subject:


_________________

tnaptguy--Bret '67

Jen '68

BretII '95

Emily '99

Rachael '01

Sophia '03

Tinkerbell '97

DodgeRam TurboDeisel'99

Ramada '79


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kevin

Can't Back-up Straight




Joined: Aug 07, 2003

Posts: 5

Location: Indianapolis IN

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 6:37 am   Post subject:

Using a torch or getting underneath and trying to kick it sounds like an invitation for Pete or one of his coworkers in your area to come for a visit. Make sure you have the coffee pot on for them. Seriously, try a dead blow hammer first. Like that guy in the tire shop I had beat and beat with a regular 5 pound sledge hammer first. The Dead Blow is about the same weight, I would not believe the difference. I believe the idea is the shot inside hits a split second later and prevents the force from transfering back off by bouncing. When you hit something with it you can feel there is no bounce back, all of the force gets transfered to the object being hit (thus the name "dead blow"). Having used it a few times since, I can testify about having the right tool for the job making a hard job easy! _________________ Kevin '55 Carla '70 William '99 Andrew 'Jan-04

timsch

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Joined: Apr 20, 2003

Posts: 696

Location: Auburn Hills, MI

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 7:20 am   Post subject:

The dead blow hammer is the way to go in this instance I believe also. The wheel is just stuck on. Heat can do some other things here that knowone has brought up. It can heat the grease up in the bearings and liquify the heck out of it, running the grease out of the bearing races. If that happens now you get to repack your bearings as well.

araden

Wolf




Joined: May 26, 2003

Posts: 154

Location: Florida

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 8:46 am   Post subject:

Thanks for all the suggestions/support. I finally got it off last night, after a lot of wiggling and tugging. The problem was strictly the tight fit of the wheel opening over the hub. After saying I was going to grind the wheel opening after I got it off, I decided to try sanding the part of the hub that was exposed - worked like a charm. _________________ al r. '72 Yuma

jtslj

Apache Master




Joined: Apr 20, 2003

Posts: 722

Location: Salt Lake City Utah

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 9:19 am   Post subject:

Good to hear that you got it off.. _________________ Me -71 (Jeff) Wife ?? (Shauna) Thomas 97 Nicholas 01 '79 Ramada '95 GMC Z71 in Utah














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