Removing bed end window
AuthorMessageAlberta |
Wolf |
Joined: Apr 29, 2003 |
Posts: 172 |
Location: Edmonton, Alberta |
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2003 1:00 pm Post subject: Removing bed end window |
I haven't seen any posts for replacing the bed end windows on this site or the old site. Mind you I'm scrolling fast. Are there any "tricks" or "tips" that anyone knows about? Is it just screws or rivets? Does the window just lift up and out of the track? Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks, Alberta |
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Beaver |
Joined: May 24, 2003 |
Posts: 77 |
Location: Upstate NY |
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2003 4:48 pm Post subject: |
I just did this so here goes: Remove the inside frame and remember what parts went where. The window on the other side will give you clues so do one at a time. Slide out the rubber weather strip on the ouside and remove the entire window frame and all and place it on a nice flat work area. Remove the screws holding the frame together at the 4 corners and remove the screen (you'll have to pull out the rubber strips that hold it into the frame). Slide out the moving and the stationary windows. Remove the tabs from the windows and then remove the 2 side frames from each window. Measure, cut plexi-I recommend tinted here (clear for the rest of the camper), replace and do the procedure backwards. Make sure the windows go in the proper slots and refer to the other window for guidance and hopefully you only make half the mistakes I did! Just Kidding and good luck. You won't believe how good the camper will look with new windows. |
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Grizzly |
Joined: May 27, 2003 |
Posts: 353 |
Location: Connecticut |
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2003 8:45 pm Post subject: |
Hi. Why must you remove the frame itself? I never had to replace the bed end windows...just the sides on mine. But if you're going to take off the screen anyway, why not just remove the rubber strips that hold the screen in place, remove the screen, pull the metal edges ("handles") off the ends of the windows, then remove the rubber weatherstipping under those metal handles, then just "pop out" the windows by bending them slightly and lifting out the bottom then the top? The new windows could then be slightly bent and "popped' back in....then the rubber weatherstripping glued onto the edges of the new windows, with the metal bands pushed back over the rubber. That procedure worked great on the sides...do you think it would be the same for the bed end windows? This would negate having to remove the frame itself. Please take some pictures of your project as you do it, whatever you decide. If you can't scan them, I'd be glad to scan and post them for you if you like. Good Luck. Pete |
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Squirrel |
Joined: Apr 22, 2003 |
Posts: 52 |
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2003 9:24 pm Post subject: |
That's not how mine comes out. I have 74 Roamer. Remove window trim (screws) on interior. Remove window on exterior. Unscrew 4 screws (2 each side) from either top or bottom track. Lift out window payne. Apache apparently couldn't make up their minds about the windows. There are several different styles. |
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Wolf |
Joined: Apr 29, 2003 |
Posts: 172 |
Location: Edmonton, Alberta |
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 9:34 am Post subject: Advice |
Thanks for the advice on the windows. I've printed out all suggestions and I will find out this weekend how the window comes out. I will track down a digital camera. Alberta a.k.a Gerald |
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Rac**** |
Joined: Apr 24, 2003 |
Posts: 125 |
Location: Houston, TX |
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 11:56 am Post subject: |
We just replaced all the windows on our 77 Ramada, and found that the windows over the bed ends work almost exactly like the large side windows. All I did after pealing the window screen off was to drill out the two small rivets that anchor the center aluminum retaining strip to the window (I only drilled out the two bottom rivets - I was able to leave the two top rivets alone). This allowed me the remove the aluminum strips on the sides of each window, and then I could just bend the windowpane a bit and they pop right out (just like on the side windows). I used the old windows for templates for the new windows, popped the new ones back in, re-attached the aluminum strips to the side of each windowpane, and then replaced the two lower rivets. All in all, it was a very simple process that allowed me to leave the entire window structure in place (didn't want to cause any extra problems for myself by risking cracking the window frame itself). _________________ Mark Gardner and family 67 Mesa 77 Ramada |
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Wolf |
Joined: Apr 29, 2003 |
Posts: 172 |
Location: Edmonton, Alberta |
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2003 12:37 pm Post subject: Removing bed end windows |
Well I was finally able to pull out the bed end windows, but unfortuantely the digital camera was at a wedding. It was very straight forward as some suggested. 1 - Drill out the two bottom rivets of the outside centre window support. 2 - Open the window slightly and remove the plastic pin holding each window edge onto the plexiglass. PUSH the pin out from the inside. DO NOT pry from the outside with a screw driver. Lesson learned on my part. 3 - Remove the window edges (I used a flat head screw driver and a hammer to tap the bar off the plexiglass. 4 - Bend the plexiglass out or in slightly and it pops out of the track. Now I'm trying to track done dark plexiglass or Lexicon. Home Depot and Revy (now Rona) do not carry it. I will check glass companies. Alberta |
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Wolf |
Joined: Apr 29, 2003 |
Posts: 172 |
Location: Edmonton, Alberta |
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2003 3:59 pm Post subject: Bed End Windows completed |
I spent last weekend installing the new bed end windows and I would like to thank the many people on this site who provided me with their advice and expertise. The plexiglass I put in is 1\8th instead of 1\16th of an inch thick, but it worked. I tried to open the windows, but for now I couldn't get the lock to release. I didn't spend much time trying to see what the problem is as there are enough windows that open. I installed new window screen as well. I was going to buy TR3 to wax the trailer as one side was oxidized, but I found that I had the three stages of Mother's products so I used this. What a huge difference. The trailer shines like new and even the color is richer. My wife noticed this as soon as I got home with the trailer. She at least admitted the color was not as bad after the waxing. I used the Pre-wax, Sealer & Glaze and then the Carnuba wax. Now my wife says the trailer can wait until next year and we'll decide then if we'll repaint it. It took a total of 20.5 hours to clean the trailer up from the storm. I even polished the aluminum and replaced all of the screws on the road cover with stainless steel. I found a crack in the bed wall at the top where the side wall seal meets. I used steel epoxy to seal it for now as I don't have time for the ABS\Mek. Considering the storm it went through we're very lucky. |
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Wolf |
Joined: Apr 23, 2003 |
Posts: 129 |
Location: Chilliwack,BC |
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 1:34 pm Post subject: |
Alberta, what did you use to polish the aluminum? I want to do mine too. _________________ Paul 73 Apache Ramada 03 GMC Safari |
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Wolf |
Joined: Apr 29, 2003 |
Posts: 172 |
Location: Edmonton, Alberta |
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 9:29 am Post subject: Aluminum Polish |
Hi Paul I tried the standard aluminum cleaner that you buy in drug stores (they sell the brass cleaner as well), but this did not work to well. I found that I had the Mothers Aluminum Polish compound and it worked extremely well. The aluminum has gone from a dull gray to a bright shine. The rust marks around the screws have now been reduced to a dark gray in color and in some cases reduced in size. If I do another polishing the results will be even better considering I doubt that the aluminum has ever been polished. Hope this helps Gerald |
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Marshmallow Roaster |
Joined: Jun 03, 2003 |
Posts: 24 |
Location: Ohio |
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 1:25 pm Post subject: |
Hi Paul - I agree with Gerald, Mothers Mag and Aluminum Polish is the best polish that I've found for aluminum. It also works very well on brass and copper. I don't think you'll be disapointed with the results. Good Luck... Jon |
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Wolf |
Joined: Apr 23, 2003 |
Posts: 129 |
Location: Chilliwack,BC |
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 1:28 pm Post subject: |
gristleThanks for the info Alberta. I was thinking of trying Autosol, but based on your testimony I'll go with the proven Mother's. I too have used the Mother's 3 bottle wax system with great results. _________________ Paul 73 Apache Ramada 03 GMC Safari
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