How do I get the old windows out?

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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2003 2:05 pm   Post subject: How do I get the old windows out?

I am planning to replace the windows on our 77 Ramada this coming weekend (weather permitting), and have been looking at the camper, trying to determine where to start. It looks like I need to remove the metal strip from the top of each wall in order to get to the window frames. Looks like I need to drill the rivets out over the doorframe and at the end of each wall (where the side walls connect to the slider that pulls them into position when you raise the roof). It looks like once this top piece is removed from the wall, the window frames should be able to slid up and out. Is the correct, or am I approaching this from the wrong angle? Any better suggestions? Regards, Mark Gardner _________________ Mark Gardner and family 67 Mesa 77 Ramada

gristle

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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2003 2:24 pm   Post subject:

YES _ I just did my 1980 ramada windoews today in clear plexiglass. Go to the Apachepopups Old section and under How To, go to windows. There are three options. I used the last option since it required the least work and all went well. What a difference the new plexi makes!!! I feel great and my wife is happy too. Much, much brighter and the camper seems roomier too since yo can actually SEE outside. Good luck. PL

FiremanPete

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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2003 5:30 pm   Post subject:

Hi. Whoa! You don't need to go to such lengths to replace the windows. The old site, under "How To" has a section on windows. I posted that years ago, when I replaced my '74 Ramada windows. Just remove the rubber stripping, remove the screens (hey....great time for new screens, huh? And they're super cheap, too!) Once the rubber strips are out, take off the old screens (mark em with masking tape if you'll reuse them!) Follow the directions on the site for removing the metal edges off the windows, then the soft gasket material....the windows will pop out now! (the metal banding over the soft gasket provides a "stiffener" to keep them in...) Just measure the old ones, have the new ones cut to fit, pop them back in (bend them a little and they pop right in the tracks!) Now replace the rubber gasket sleeve (I used some epoxy to hold it on) and press the metal edge bands back on. If you want to replace the screens, cut new ones just a little bigger. Place them over the window frames (use a friend to help stretch the screens) and replace the rubber banding using a screen roller (a few dollars at the hardware store) to run the rubber strip back into the groove. You may want to purchase new rubber stripping if the old stuff is dry. That's it! Good Luck Pete

Lorna

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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2003 6:33 pm   Post subject:

I just remove the metal track on the inside of the pop-up and pushed the window frames out. Then I unscrew the frames after removing the screen. Mine must be way different than yours.

gristle

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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2003 7:29 pm   Post subject:

There must be several different types of windows apparently. I've seen FiremanPetes method bandied about several times but could never find the parts they were talking about. Lorna's solution doesen't quite jibe with what I had either. The window replacement directions in Apachepopups Old under How To did make sense for my application however. My screens screwed in from the bottom of the camper side wall and came out easily (frame and all) with no rubber strip removal. The window frames also came apart pretty easily as per the instructions by removing the 4 screws (2 top, 2 bottom) on the center supprt to remove the stationary window, which just pops out with the support taken out. The sliding window simply pops out after you remove the white tabs and the support frames on each side of the sliding window. If this doesn't make sense, keep trying - you will be able to replace those windows no matter what. Hope I didn't confuse you, but if you take a close at what you have, you should be able to work it out.

Lorna

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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2003 6:12 am   Post subject:

Gristle, There must be several different windows. The old site doesn't make a bit of sense to me. Your method doesn't either nor does any other. Mine are the bypass windows in a sliding track frame (2 panels by pass each other on seperate tracks) the window track frame fits into the opening from the outside. A piece of U channel fits over part of the track on the inside and screws hold the two sections together. It does explain why some of the windows on the different hardside models look "funny" to me.

timsch

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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2003 6:16 am   Post subject:

in 1976 they changed from the abs sides on the box to a full length window and aluminum sides. Prior to the 1976 the windows were versions of the bed end windows only on the sides.








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